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Re: Pumps for All?

Postby DrPhilMcgraw on 16 Nov 2009, 02:24

my team plays pump exclusively.

I rock lucas's P mag ;) and a pneumatic assist trilly.

my brother and the other 2 monkeys rock pump cockers.


1) you probably will want a barrel kit or an under bored barrel ( a small diameter barrel ) to prevent roll out.

2) pump cocker is the way to go 100%.
I have heard nothing bad about phantoms, but I have been looking for barrel kits for them and find them difficult to come by. you also want to have easy access to spare parts (springs etc.)
so essentially your local shop will dictate what type of pump you get.

3) pumps do NOT shoot any more acurate than any other marker. accuracy is based on 2 factors. one being the barrel to paint match, and the second being the shooter (arguably the third being consistancy, but that tends to be the regulator)

pumps appear to be more accurate because after shooting a pump you learn to be accurate because if you miss, then you are raped by an ego (or timmy, or DM, or whatever other fast marker is the current trend at the local field)


any nelson based valve pump will have auto trigger (hold the trigger and pump for rapid fire) and cocker pumps can have auto trigger too. (it is a little lever attached to the safety on the grip frame and the cocking rod)

your price range and the availability of spare parts will determine what pump you get.

I would recomend a cocker pump with a madman spring kit and a freak kit, but if you want to spend less, I would recomend a cocker pump with mad man (30$) and a SMALL bore barrel to prevent roll out ( balls rolling out of the barrel after you pump and before you shoot)


putting a pump kit on a cocker involves buying the right pump kit (pre 2000, mini, etc.) then it is simply a matter of removing your front pneumatics, and adding the pump guide rod, pump handle, and pump cocking rod. it is easy as hell, so long as you get the right pump kit. if the pump kit is not the right one then the cocking rod will either be too long or too short.

thats about it for now..... if you have any questions then feel free to PM me
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Re: Pumps for All?

Postby sam steele on 18 Nov 2009, 00:50

nice to see you joined Matt.......
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Re: Pumps for All?

Postby SuperG91 on 18 Nov 2009, 19:55

Sounds good, Ive always liked the Cockers. Ill definetly look into it. Ummmm. Stupid, uninformed question. What's a Pmag?
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Re: Pumps for All?

Postby Lucas on 18 Nov 2009, 20:02

automag pump.... aka pumpmag... pmag
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Re: Pumps for All?

Postby Maverick on 18 Nov 2009, 22:45

Tippmanns SL-68 ( 2 ) looks pretty bad ass, being a tippmann you can run it over with a truck and probably be just as, IF NOT MORE ACCURATE and got to love the old school becoming new school in this day and age.

pics and info at Tippmann.com
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Re: Pumps for All?

Postby SuperG91 on 18 Nov 2009, 22:59

I actually played with the original tippy 68 II this summer. It was a hilariously tank like gun.
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Re: Pumps for All?

Postby Lucas on 19 Nov 2009, 23:53

SuperG91 wrote:I actually played with the original tippy 68 II this summer. It was a hilariously tank like gun.


I was going to say you could try out my old 68 as its up on the wall at hardcore collecting dust.
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Re: Pumps for All?

Postby SuperG91 on 20 Nov 2009, 01:38

Saw a Trilly on this site,

http://buypaintball.ca/product.php?prod ... 148&page=1

it says it comes with pump kit installed and the pneumatics to turn it back into a semi. Scam? 'Cause for this price it seems too good to be true...
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Re: Pumps for All?

Postby DrPhilMcgraw on 24 Nov 2009, 01:12

price is too high.

gun alone is 50 ish wholesale. (semi)

so 80ish retail +50ish for the pump kit new

so 150ish is what you could get that exact set up for NEW.


I bet you could weasel him down to 100.

just my 2 cents.

but in reality, for $150, does it really matter if you are being taken for an extra 20 or 40$ ?


(my cocker pump is a trilly too )
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Re: Pumps for All?

Postby SuperG91 on 24 Nov 2009, 01:22

I actually put some money down on a VSC Acid Blue Phantom that Hardcore was selling. 350 for brand new, rare-ish phantom. Came with a stock and the vertical air attached.
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